TEMECULA TROTTERS Newsletter, August 2008



5–Thomas Beyer

17-Erica Kreske

22-Taimi Schweighardt

23-Bob Martzolff


NEW MEANING TO ‘HAPPY BIRTHDAY’ FOR TINO AND MARIA!! They are the proud new parents of an 8 pound, 19 inch long bundle of joy born at 8:15 on I think that’s this morning (25 Aug), making that babe not even 12 hours old as I type this. Babe’s name is Cyrus Alexandria Soria and will be called ‘Lex’ or maybe “NO, LEX!!” or maybe ‘GOOD LEX!!” or most likely, “PLease sleep through the night, Lex” for the foreseeable future.  

(T. Ellis)






















Pizza Nite








Pizza Fac   6:30 PM run




SRP     06:30 AM



track      6:30 PM



Run   Ctr

6:30 PM run




PDS      06:30



track     6:30 PM



Pizza Fac

6:30 PM run




PDS      06:30



track      6:15 PM



Pizza Nite    6:15 PM




FM           7:00 AM

Legend :  

SRP:  Santa Rosa Plateau   

PDS:  Paloma Del Sol

FM  :  Farmers’ Market (Old town)

Pizza Fac:  Pizza Factory

Run Ctr:   Running Center




Hey Gang, Barb tells me that she can get an audio visual room at the Temeku Club house where we could show those running films I mentioned last month (The Runner and Running on the Sun) It will need to be a week night and I’m thinking a Friday would most likely be best for most people.  If any of you are interested let us know, either myself or Barb and we’ll get this show on the road. – dougie




 T. Ellis

Hey Gang. When I was at that Marathon Movie recently they showed a trailer for a film called “The Runner“. Its about Dave Hortons 2,700mile run of the Pacific Crest Trail.  I got online and found the film and purchaced a DVD. At the same time I also bought the DVD called “Running on the Sun”. Its about the Badwater 135.  I’ve been wondering how I could share these films with the club.  Wouldn’t it be cool to have a place where a bunch of us could get together and watch it as a group?  Do any of you have any ideas?


The Bulldog 50K            Eric Clifton

the weekend after the Where’s Waldo 100k trail championships i went to the Bulldog 50k held in malibu creek state park.  since we carpooled there w/ a friend we got there early in plenty of time to stretch warm-up and use the facilities. by race start i was feeling loose and pretty good.  i should have known then that things were going to go horribly wrong.  after last weeks good run it was amazing that almost the same things that worked so well there would be the exact wrong things here.  
first off, my shoes.  i wore superlightweight racers in OR kowing that the course has mostly smooth fast running trails w/ occasional rocky areas but those rocks were of the larger, small boulder size, easy to step on for traction.  my memory of bulldog was that it was mostly dirt roads so i thought the same shoes would be appropriate.  Danger, will robinson!  i conveniently forgot that the dirt road was covered in mostly unavoidable walnut sized rocks to which my shoes provided little protection.  the crocs would have been much better.  this was not much of a factor as i powered up the first climb of the course (3 mi-6.5 mi).  i felt so good i gradually pulled away in the lead.  reaching the highest point i looked back and saw 2nd place about 3 minutes back.  i was feeling pretty pumped as i was anticipating a win already.  then i started downhill and things did, indeed, go downhill from there.  this was where i discovered my shoes’ inadequate protection and being confident of my lead i backed off the pace and relaxed and tried (tried being the operative word) to avoid the stone bruising rocks on the descent.
just after the 12.5 mile aid station (where, when i lapped my watch the battery died) i pulled into a trailside port-o-let to TCB and popping out fairly quickly i see a runner a little ahead.  well, i just figured it was time to get to work and re-put the guy away.  there is one short hill (about 1mi) before the end of the first 15+ mile loop and i kept expecting to come up on the guy around any corner.  imagine my surprise when i look up and i see the cat at least 2 switchbacks up.  i keep pushing,  seeing noni at the end of the first loop(around 1:54) and drinking half a water bottle of good old coke.  i figured i’d catch the guy on the big climb up where i had pulled away from everyone on the first loop.  however, by now my feet were aching and when the hill started i noticed i was getting that spacey vision thing i get just prior to bonking.  sure enough, i hit the wall.  i crawl into the first aid station at 4.5 miles into the loop and eat and drink and then shuffle on up the hill.  it took about 20 minutes to get my energy back which came close to the top of the hill.  unfortunately, five more people passed me as i plodded up.  
then the horrible downhill again.  both of my heels were stonebruised and painful (no blisters, tho), my big toe was poking out and the descent was miserable.  one other guy passed me coming down the last little bump and then it was a “sprint” to the finish.  since i had done a 4:08 last year and was shooting for a 3:50 this year (and was on pace thru the first loop) i knew i had slowed but w/ my watch not working i did not know how much.  i was afraid it would be in the 4:30 range which would have been depressing.  my heart dropped when i saw the clock- 4:45.  so this race had everything wrong- bad watch, bad shoes, overconfident, and a good bonking, to boot.  the first guy ran 3:58 and the first woman was around 4:53.  even w/ all that i did finish 8th OA, 3d master and first 50+ almost exactly like last week tho at a much less competitive race.  sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you.




WHAT DID YOU DO LAST WEEKEND?                                

Myself, I went to the Plateau and ran with the group.  I noticed that a few of the runners from last month were not in attendance.  I noticed for instance that Dan the Man wasn’t there.  I figured he just wanted to sleep in and sorta blew off the Run at the Plateau.  Also missing was Victor Lopez and a few of our newer members. Well, in searching thru some of the weekends race results I came up with many Trotter names. So as it turns out they were not being laZy and sleepin’ in, nope, they were out pounding pavement. 

While some of us were chasing Tarantulas at SRP Dan was trying to hold off competitors as he Swam/Biked and Ran around the scenic Lake Arrowhead, CA at the Lake Arrowhead Triathlon.

I know from experience that Lake Arrowhead, while a beautiful locale for a race, is a tuff place for a race.  The swim is nice and just a tad long for a sprint at 600yds. But it’s the run to T1 that gets your attention as you have to climb about a 1/4 mile up a hill (usually in a wetsuit) to get to Transition.  Then the bike is “just” one lap around the lake. But it’s like a roller coaster with many ups and downs that leave your legs burning.  The run is fun and not quite so hilly but still rolling and it finishes in a small village type shopping center on the lake.

The following morning, Sunday the 17th found many a Trotter sitting in the dark at Cabrillo National Monument waiting for the Sun to rise so that they could run 13.1 miles back to Balboa Park. The race of course was the AFC (America’s Finest City 1/2 Mary and 5k)

Scanning the results it appears that Brian Harned, Tino Soria, Tracey Scholtemeyer, Victor Lopez, Kiki Burnick, Monique Gill, Darren Gill, and Scott Holman all ran the race.  Also see a couple of my running school students from last year ran too.  So how did you all like the hill at mile 12? hehehe 😉

At the same time this race was going on….back at Balboa park they held a 5k in conjunction with the 1/2 Mary. Victor and Dina Flores opted for the 5k and both did really well with Victor setting a PR of 22:34. Way to go Victor. And I don’t know if Dina’s run was a PR or not but she was  running fast enough she was melting her shoes too.




M.I.A   Victor Lopez.  He must have been still recovering from AFC as he was missing at Mizuno nite. Wasn’t he to lead the Group run?  This group wanders around aimlessly without a leader 😉  I understand that Bob “ingy” Ingertson lead the group and that it was a slow easy run as everyone had to stop at each intersection as Bob looked for Pennies.

And Speaking of the Mizuno nite: The rep was there and gave out 40 technical shirts and a few pairs of shoes. Everyone walked away with a shirt.  They also served Pizza and all the Beer you could drink… Ok Im lying about the beer. 🙂

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Where’s Waldo 100k National Trail Championships – Eric Clifton

noni and i showed up at the Willamette ski area in OR (southeast of eugene about 70 miles) fri. evening and since it was closing in on dark and i still needed to run (keep the streak alive) we took off immediately up the ski hill road/run for a 7.5 mile loop covering the race’s first 2.5 miles and the last 4 miles w/ 1 mile not on the race course connecting the two seperate trails.  we were trying to crank the run out quickly as the prerace meeting was due in just an hour.  knowing us, you can probably guess we did not make it and we didn’t. 
 noni had just bought 4 pair of addidas shoes at a local outlet for an average of around $25/pr and was trying a pair on this run.  unfortunately, the new shoes had a glued down insole which she usually pulls out and places her orthotics underneath to prevent slippage.  since she couldn’t pull the insoles out she put her orthos on top which resulted in ortho slippage especially on the downhills.  since we had been travelling we were both fairly tired and the ferocity of the climb up the ski hill shocked noni and she walked most of the first 2 miles.  after two miles the course flattened for a mile and a half and then the last 4 miles was a steady, constant downhill.  by the time we finished (well after the meeting) noni’s left knee was talking to her and was very stiff.  all those downhill miles w/ the ortho in the front of her shoe did it’s damage.  
we talked to some fellow racers and collected my bag of goodies and #s and then meandered back to the car to set up for tomorrow and bed.  i got my race clothes ready to go and put my front race # on my shirt and my back age group # (M50) on my back, laid out my sleeping pad and bed and then we went to the ski lounge for a quick dinner of cold pasta and bread and humus (our own) and watched a little olympics.  then at full dark we went back to the car and noni settled into the back seat and i slept outside w/ the noise and the mosquitoes.  i had forgotten that there was an early start for non-national championship runners who were afraid of missing the cut-offs so around 2am people were banging car doors and talking and walking around.  no problem unless one is a light sleeper, which i am.  after the 3am early start it got quiet again and i was able to snooze a little until 4:15 when it got noisy again for the race start at 5.  i rarely use an alarm since there are always runners making noise well in advance of race start.
the morning was fairly warm, probably around 65 degrees with anticipated highs in the mountains of around 100.  i started off in my “bright” skirt and a cut off lightweight singlet with thin socks and ultra- lightweight (3.7 oz) mizuno racing flats.  there were a lot of ultra hotshots there, nate mcdowell, ian torrence, hal koerner, sean andrish, dave terry plus a lot of local lesser known hotshots.  i did my trademark start charging up the hill in the lead.  i was able to relax and run easy while i listened to “the kids” behind me shoot the breeze w/out the onus of having to waste breath on conversation myself.  i led thru the first aid station (7.4 miles) but had to use the port-o-let right by the trail.  nate and hal took off while sean joined me and we cruised up together to the top of Mt. Fuji at around 7144′ (we started around 5150′) at the 14 mile mark.  there is a one mile out and back to/fro the summit so we were able to see nate and hal together about 6 minutes ahead of us.  at the summit i paused a few seconds to take in the awesome view and sean took off down the hill.  just after i started down about 1/4 mile right in front of several upclimbing runners i caught a toe on a rock and spiralled down and around to the ground.  only some minor scratches on my hands and legs but i knew it would take it’s mental toll on the more extreme steep and rocky sections and result in me being more timid on the downhills.  and it was just a little after this that i hit my only really bad section of the race.  
my legs after 15 miles just started tying up.  my quads felt really sore and fatigued and i went from a run to a jog in short order and almost fell to a shuffle.  i get discouraged when i am just plodding along and during this section i was thinking of dropping out.  however the finances involved made me feel guilty.  it’s hard to dnf when so much $$ have gone into getting to and from a race and my only real reason was that my legs were tired and i was slowing down.  so when i saw noni at the 20 mile aid station i did not express my concerns and thought i’d hang in until i see her next at the 32 mile aid station.  in the meantime however, i was getting passed with considerable frequency.  several people i did not know went by including a couple of master’s runners, the bastards.  ian passed me just after the 20 mile aid and then, finally, the first “chick” came by.  prudence l’heureaux came by looking very steady and strong around the 22 mile mark and at the 24 mile mark here comes krissy moehl.  at the 25 mile aid i had a couple of clif shot blocks and, since it was heating up, a frozen grape popsicle.  last year’s overall race winner megan arbogast (that’s right the whole men’s field got “chicked” last year as well as the year before) came in right behind me but i was able to leave the aid station before her. 
 having two women ahead and one pushing from behind i allowed male egotism a little head (no pun) to pick up the pace.  to my surprise my legs felt good and i was able to start pushing again and got back to really running.  i was even more surprised to see hal k. up ahead walking.  a foot injury flared up and had knocked him out of the running.  krissy and i back and forthed quite awhile and i could tell she was not having her best day.  still strong but showing chinks in the armour.  after i saw noni at 32 miles and got some chocolate milk, dr. pepper, a couple of pieces of watermelon and a few grapes and an ice water bottle to go i took off chasing krissy again.  ran well and did the same thing at the 37 mile aid station which would be my last chance to see noni before the finish.  at around 40 miles the course climbs up between two mountains (the twins at 7362′) and it was during this grind that i was able to pass krissy again as she was walking(but w/ a purpose).  
i returned to the 25mile/44 mile aid station (a big loop) just ahead of krissy, got some watermelon, coke, electrolyte drink and a water bottle of ice water and, of course, the life-saving cherry popsicle.  doug especially, but almost all guys really like this aid station as the women dress up as bellydancing gypsies.  the poor things.  last year it was really cold and they were out there half naked and this year while warm enough (closing in on 100) the mosquitoes were in full force.  krissy came in and left before me so i was back in chase mode yet again.  i hadn’t seen megan in awhile nor prudence or anyone else for that matter.  from 25 miles to 49 miles it seemed like there was just the two of us in the race.  at 49 i passed krissy yet again just before the start of the climb up to maiden peak (7800′) and got into and out of the 50 mile aid station before krissy in 8:42.  i had a quick bite of food and a refill of my water bottle and assaulted the maiden peak hill-  all 3.8 miles of it.  
all those runs up dripping springs were kicking in on this climb as i steadily pushed up the hill.  this is the steepest and highest climb in the race and, of course, it comes at 50 miles.  the good news is that it is the last climb of the race and from the short out and back at the summit it is all downhill or flat the last 9ish miles.  about 1/3 of the way up i came around a curve and saw, to my surprise, prudence.  she was struggling a little, head down.   i trotted by her as she walked a steep section.  almost everyone, even the top guys, seemed to walk the steep hills (except for me).  but they all fly on the downs and flats.  i have trouble changing gears like that and i don’t like to lose my momentum plus i am a slow walker.  the steepness of maiden and my slow “running” pace made me think that perhaps i could go a bit faster if i did walk but mentally i figured i had run the whole way so far, just hang on a little further.  as i made the turn up the short out and back to the summit of maiden peak i asked the course monitor if there was anyone on the mountain ahead of me.  he said two guys so i tried to look good which turned out to be a mistake.  i should have tried to look dead as ian torrence saw me as he was coming down and got the fear of eric in him and took off.  there was no other guy proving the theorem that one can’t trust people on the course for info.  i saw prudence coming up almost in the same place i saw ian coming down so i had the fear of prudence in me.  as i told her after the race that she proabably wasn’t racing me but i was sure racing her.  at this point however i was feeling so good that i was not really concerned about the people behind me but more interested in the ones in front.  it’d been years since i had beaten ian so i was smelling a little blood in the water. 
 i got to the 55 mile aid station and just grabbed some coke and a water bottle of water and charged on.  i figured i was in 11th place and wanted a top ten.  i got about  a half mile past the aid station and i see sean a. coming back toward me.  he seemed fine but he said the heat got to him and wiped him out (hint, hint you early morning runners).  about another mile after that i see another runner behind a tree taking care of business and i used that opportunity to really push and pull into 9th place.  when i got to the last 4 miles to go where i had run the day before i cut loose constantly hoping to see ian around every curve.  but the finish came too soon and i saw i was not going to be able to break 11 hours.  i sprinted in anyway to an 11:03:55 finish for 9th oa, 8th usatf national championship finisher and third master and first 50+.  ian put another 3 minutes on me in the last 9 miles to finish in 10:51.  the winner, master’s runner neil olsen did 10:06 and prudence and krissy did 11:12 and 11:24 respectively.  i won the 3d master’s prize money of $100 while neil was able to double dip and won $1000 for oa win and another $500 for 1st master for a total of $1500.  hard to make money in this sport.  just think i ran just over 11 hours hard to make the same amount of prize money i got in the lupus run for 10k in just around 40 minutes.  still, it’s nice being national 50+ 100k trail champion. 
harpy tails, 

jester (Eric)


Eric, sounds like:


to me!  Tracy… Not-A-Mt-Goat-Compared-to-Eric.. Ellis



Thanxs to Beth, we get the below update on our future life expectancy and life styles due to our running addiction : ).  looks like the Jester may be headed for 200 birthdays or so. How many sun spots and face wrinkles is that ?? Maybe we don’t really want to know. There’s a reason Noni is smart enough not to go those distances! (T. Ellis)


That runner’s high may translate into a lot of other long-lasting health benefits, a new report from an ongoing study suggests. Researchers have found that regular jogging, or any consistent aerobic exercise, in middle age and late in life may reduce people’s risk of disabilities and help them live longer and healthier.

The study published this week in the Arch ives of Internal Medicine tracked two groups of people — “ever-runners” and “never-runners” — over two decades beginning in 1984. With her colleagues, lead author Dr. Eliza F. Chakravarty, an immunologist and rheumatologist at Stanford University School of Medicine, studied 538 people who run regularly, the majority of whom were selected from a national running club, along with a control group of 423 people who never run, drawn from the faculty and staff at Stanford. All participants were age 50 or older when the study began. Aside from their exercise habits, the two groups were demographically matched, similar in lifestyle habits, ethnicity and physical characteristics like weight. Each volunteer was asked to complete an annual questionnaire from 1985 through 2005 that traced their health status, including body mass index (a ratio of height to weight used to determine obesity), levels of disability and how much exercise they got.

Researchers analyzed the accumulated data at 8 years, 13 years and, most recently in 2005, the 21-year mark. Not surprisingly, the data showed that exercise was a boon to health. Over the years, compared with the never-exercisers, people who exercised regularly — in addition to running, activities included biking, aerobic dance and swimming — showed improved aerobic capacity, better cardiovascular fitness, increased bone mass, fewer inflammatory markers, less physical disability, better response to vaccinations and even improved thinking, learning and memory. They also lived significantly longer. What surprised researchers, however, was that those health differences persisted — survival and disability rates, in particular, continued to diverge for the two groups — over the course of the study. As the volunteers entered their seventh and eighth decades of life, many of the runners discontinued the activity and took up less strenuous activities like walking, but their health benefits endured. “We would have expected that as people got older, the difference between the two groups would start to narrow,” Chakravarty says.

By year 19 of the study, 15% of the runners had died, compared with 34% of the non-running control group. Not only did fewer runners die of cardiovascular causes, but fewer died of other causes such as neurological and infectious disorders. At 21 years into the study, the authors reported, the running group experienced fewer disabilities in eight basic daily functions, including walking, eating, dressing, grip strength and routine physical activities — reporting, on average, one mild disability out of the eight. Never-runners recorded one to two disabilities on average, and were more likely to have a complete disability in one of those daily functions. Even as participants approach their 90s, the groups’ disability and survival curves continue to diverge.

Although the study focused on runners, Chakravarty says, the benefits appear to accrue from any vigorous aerobic exercise. In fact, the data suggested that even a little bit of exercise was b etter than none. A few of the volunteers from the non-running group did break a sweat sometimes, if not in a prolonged, consistent way — they reported having run for more than one month at a time — and even that short period of regular aerobic exercise appeared to have created positive health benefits, Chakravarty says. For avid runners, more good news: the study found no significant difference between the condition of joints in pavement pounders and their more sedentary peers. Looking at X-rays and arthritis rates, Chakravarty says, “there was clearly no difference.”

As more and more people survive longer and grapple with physical impairments, dementia and memory loss toward the end of life, it is important to preserve quality of life and functional abilities as long as possible, Chakravarty says. Her study suggests that regular aerobic exercise, even starting in middle age, could be a crucial factor. “It’s never too late to start an exercise program,” she says.

Submitted by Beth : )


 Inland Empire Half Marathon riverside postponement

It is with great disappointment that RC Productions must announce the
postponement of the IE Half Riverside that was to be held September 14th,
2008. If you have registered online your credit card will be refunded and
if you registered by paper we will mail either your check or a refund

Our goal was to bring the same type of exciting events you are used to in
other areas to the IE, close to home. Although we successfully put on IE
Half Ontario in February, last Thursday the City of Riverside informed us
that our course would not be approved.
The course had first been presented to the City two years ago, and we asked
for approval earlier this year. After some discussion the direction of the
course was reversed in order to clear some main streets earlier in the day.
Due to some miscommunication, we thought we had approval when the City
asked for a professional traffic plan for the course you saw on the web
site. We contracted $8,000 for the traffic plan which shows where to place
barricades for all intersections, what type of barricades, how many
officers are needed and what street closure information must be provided.
Usually, when asked for a traffic plan, the course will be approved,
possibly with a few modifications. Unfortunately, the City officer who
asked for the plan retired, and we discovered the City did not agree with
his assessment of the course.
Two other issues also impacted the viability of the IE Half. Our title
sponsor, Express Jet, withdrew their sponsorship from the event after
ending service from Ontario last month. The Riverside Press Enterprise
presented us with a contract to be a major advertising sponsor, but after
an initial agreement, they informed us they could not participate as
planned (however, they did place one add a week).
RC Productions will try to revive the Inland Empire Triple Set of races in
northern, central and southern IE next year. This will depend on, among
other things, finding a title sponsor to help alleviate the cost of
producing these races. 

We understand that many of you planned your race schedule with our event in mind, and we apologize for the inconvenience this has caused all of you.

(Submitted by Doug)



( $40/$60)

 May:   Ryan and Cristina Moore




          Steve Altfillisch
          Monica Capler/Darren Gill
          Herman & Lori Castille
          Jennifer Coyle
          Leslie Delaney
          Matt & Andrea Haley
          Mike Jennings
          Jack Lenzo
          Kim Parris
          Amberlee Robbins
          Tracey Scholtemeyer
          Iain Scott
          Ami Shea
          Bill Wright

August Club meeting minutes. (sorta’ 😉

We have decided that all Wednesday Nite’ run’s should start at the Pizza Factory. There may be a few exceptions to this rule but everyone will be notified in advance.  For instance in 2 weeks on 8/20 the run will commence from in front of the Running Center store (Mizuno night) see below.

The Wednesday nite runs will continue to be at 6:30 for the next 3 Wednesdays 8/13, 8/20, and 8/27. Starting 9/3 (the night of our next club meeting) we will move the start time back 15 minutes to 6:15PM.

Monday nite speed workouts will be on the same schedule. That is 6:30 until 9/1 when we change to 6:15.

We will continue with our Santa Rosa Plateau runs the 3rd Saturday of each Month. 

Last night we as a group decided that we’d like to start one Saturday run a Month from the Farmers Market downtown.  We decided to make that the 1st Saturday of each Month.

The Saturday runs will continue to be at 6:30 until 9/6 when we will back off to 7:00 AM.

Ok, is everyone confused or is it just me? 🙂 

Wednesday 8/20  The run will be from the Running Center. Victor will lead the group as he has planned a route from there.  A Mizuno Representative will be on hand with some give aways and one pair of Mens and one pair of Womens shoes to be given away.  The store will be open.

Make sure you keep checking the web site at least weekly for updates.



On Saturday 8/9   3 of the Tri Chicks, Darcy, Karrie and Leslie and Brigid all donned their Camo Tri suits and went to Pendleton to do the Sprint Tri there.  I’ve only spoken with Brigid who by the way took 3rd in her AG. 
Perhaps one of them will share their story with us.  Ok everyone ready? On the count of 3 let’s all take a deep breath and hold it until one of them writes a report.  1…….2………3.  😉  


 Mt. Humphrey Ascent by Bob ‘Ingy’

On a recent road trip I stopped at Mt. Humphrey, the highest point in Arizona at 12,667 ft. It’s about 15 miles northwest of Flagstaff. From the trailhead it’s a 4000 ft.elevation climb in 4.5 miles (total round trip is 9 miles).

I hit the trail at 6:20am and planned to run/power walk to the summit. About 3/4 miles in something seemed wrong, the trail was just too wide. I should have turned around then but didn’t resulting in about 3 miles of steep ascent and loss of over 2 hours. Anyway, when I finally backtracked and found where I had gone wrong, it was the only trail junction on the entire hike and I made  the wrong choice. Actually, I was running at the time, and the trail turn was sort of hidden behind a large tree. There was a small sign but I missed it. The wide trail I was originally on turned out to be a ski trail down from the top of the ski lift.
Once back on the correct trail, it was a steep steady climb with lots of rocks and roots. I hit the tree line at about 11,200 ft. After that there were several areas that passed through scree that made things difficult as I was pushing rather hard due to the loss of time earlier. I was also feeling the altitude a lot and felt like I could actually hear my heart beating!!
The summit was very deceptive with two “false summits”. I was very tired but could see the summit only several hundred yards further, only to make a left turn around rocks to discover another quarter mile—–that happened twice.
On the way up it was quite warm and my t-shirt was soaked with sweat, but as I got above the tree line it cooled and the wind picked up. It also got very dark as I was above the clouds. Once reaching the summit I changed into a dry long sleeve shirt and had some trail mix. That was when I heard the first rumble of thunder, so I decided to head down immediately, as lightning is a very real danger on these mountains and the weather was changing rapidly. I moved quickly, but the rain and wind arrived as I hit the tree line. It rained hard for about 10 minutes and then the hail came and lasted nearly 20 minutes. I had to slow as the trail got quite slick and it was hard to see the rocks/roots in the water accumulating on the trail, plus I was freezing. I was glad I had a long-sleeve shirt even though I was 100% soaked. During the hail there was large, loud claps of thunder, though I never actually seen any lightning. Wet, cold and moving slower than I wanted, it was a little scary.
After the rain ended, I almost dried out until about 1/2 mile from the trail head when it started raining again. At the finish I looked like a sewer rat, totally soaked and covered in mud. Fortunately, Vicky was waiting with a blanket and we headed to a gas station where I changed clothes and got a cup of hot coffee. It was 90 degrees in Flagstaff.
Anyway, it was a fun adventure and I recommend trail/mountain running to everyone, but its a good idea to know what you’re getting into and be prepared for the quick weather changes that can happen on a mountain.     




Santa Rosa Plateau Run 8/16/08

Normally 0630hrs isn’t that early for me.  But after a weeks worth of late night Olympics watching crawling out of a perfectly comfortable bed at 5am was a lil’ tuff this morning.

Had another good turn out this month. A bit lighter than last month but not bad.  As best as I can recall there were 9 of us.  And it didn’t look good for me as only the uber fast kids showed up to play.  But I got lucky. We’d only just left the parking lot headed East on Slyvan trail when Kim K slowed up and started running my pace.  The two of us would trail the rest of the pack as if we were Shark chum or is that Mt Lion bait? at any rate, We all hung a left on Tovashal tr and headed to the Visitor center where we all met up again. Then it was off to the West on “I think” Vista Grande Trail. Once again Kim and I dropped back a bit but we could keep Barb and Herman in sight.  Awhile later Beth dropped back and now we were 3. We went North on Monument rd. After a couple of miles we came to another branch and waved goodbye to most of the crew except Herman who thought that heading back to the barn sounded better than heading to the Adobes so now we were 4.  Barb, Jane, Jolene, Iain and Glen would all continue on.  The 4 of us snaked our way back to the parking area. Along the way Herman found a Tranantula and Beth saw a 40′ Andaconda crawling in the grass ( or maybe it was just a little garter snake 😉  When they surprise you they all look real big). We’d run a total of 6.5 mi.  I want to thank the 3 of them for running with me.  It made my morning.  

The 4 of us waited and a short time later Glen came in alone. Followed a few minutes later by Iain.  We were about to call out the Rescue squad when Charlies Angels all came sprinting in.  Apparently they’d gone out to the Adobes, and then headed “back” to the visitor center and then back on Torino or Tovashal to Sylvan and home.  Think they did over 10.  

Weather was great, trail conditions great, company great.  On the way in we did start seeing lots of people on the trails. We must have had 100 highschool runners go past. Then a few groups of walkers and runners.  Lots of folks out enjoying the raw beauty of nature.

YT  (Doug)





Eric planned an Agua Tibia Mtn. ascent this past Saturday.  We had a small turnout just Eric, Noni and YT.

I was going to write up a short report about the run/hike, but I’ve taken the lazy way out and instead I’m going to share a few emails that went back and forth between us.  I also have a zillion photos but I don’t want to clog up the site with all the pics so I’ll just share one.  Anyways here’s our stories:

hey doug,
it was great having you come out for the mountain challenge.  i was really pleased seeing you charging on past the 5 mile height.  i was really hoping if you got to 6 you’d go ahead and dash the last 1.14mi up to the trail intersection w/ palomar-magee trail.  sorry we did not hang around and wait for you to return but we want to hear of your adventure.  see any critters?  it was amazing watching you running up the mountain and it seemed like you were having no problem at all.  seeing how well you were doing i have confidence the summit is w/in reach.  how was your trip down?
noni did really well- running up to the 5 in 68 and back down in 53 for a 2:01 total for the ten.  i felt great, smooth, strong, no bonk, no fatigue and yet as i watched my miles go by the times per mile were about 1 minute a mile slower than i expected for a fair run and about 1.5 min slower than a good run.  it’s wierd when things feel really good but the pace just isn’t there.  i summitted in just under 1:20 and came down in a 65 for a 2:24:55.  i was disappointed in my time but since it felt so good i’m not letting it bother me.
congrats on your mountain attack,




Im so glad when I got down that I found you guy’s had left, seriously.  I kept worrying that you WOULD wait.  I ended up going 6.55 miles up,  so that I could make the up and down a half marathon. You guys would have had to wait forever. I got back to the truck just before 11:30.   

I was tempted to keep going when near the top and if I’d know I was within .64 I would have.  But it was a good thing I turned when I did as I was spent. I made a few mistakes.  I should have taken something for carbs. When I’m out there for that many hours I need food.   I’d just gotten a new camelback and I had some Gatorade so I put it in last night and then froze it. That turned out to be a MAJOR mistake. I was up about 2 miles when I first tried to get a drink. Ever try sucking on a Big Red Ice Cube with a straw?  Well it doesn’t work very well.  When I finally could get tiny sips of melted GA it was so nasty tasting. I’m guessing the stuff comes out of solution when frozen.  Throughout the day I’d take the bag out and try to kneed it and I’d make a slushy but it still wouldnt melt.  I’d end up at the bottom of the mountain with a 1/3 still in the bag.  When I got home and emptied it what was left was watered down and pink. 

I know that you dont require much liquid but I like about 20 oz/hr when its hot. I did manage about 40 oz (4 lbs) and I drank another 2lbs of water on the way home and I still lost 4 lbs. of body weight.

Had a great day. Loved it but my legs were pretty sore on the way down. And my bad foot? I caught maybe 4 rocks going up hill. Kinda like stubbing a toe but that ankle doesn’t move and it just stings bad.  But that’s all normal for me so I’d just kept on keepin on.  For me I made good time. Last time it took Bob and I  2.5 hrs to get to 5 miles. Today I ran those first few miles and pushed the rest. I made 6.55 in 2:05.  Last time it took us 4:30 to go 10 and today I went 13.1 in 4:17.  And it even took longer to descend than ascend!!  Told ya I was sore.

Did you guys give me like a half hour head start?  I sorta jogged/walked up to the trail head and then I started jogging up the trail. I’d mostly run to the 2.5 mile mark (just after you guys went by) and then I started hiking. Once my HR recovered I sorta found a new mode of locomotion that Im going to call either Speed Hiking or Extreme Hiking.   Kinda just pushing it a bit. I had only planned on going up a few miles and turning around. But sometimes I just get into putting one foot in front of the other and turning around just doesn’t feel right.  But continuing forward does.  Does that make any sense? 

Only wild life I saw was a lot of lizards and quite a few baby Hornytoads.

Thanks again for trying to get the gang out there. I know that a few others wanted to go but had already made plans for that day.  Maybe next time more notice. 

I’ve had the same problem with the bike rides. One turns out to be a great success and the next no one shows 🙂

I did take a number of pictures and was sort of amazed when I realized I could see Lake Skinner. 




big d,
so glad you made it back and had fun.  i do know what you mean about
when you get going.  there’s all this forward momentum and esp. for
guys we always seem to have that explorer gene where we just want
 to see what’s around the next bend in the trail.  who knows?  Maybe
 on your watch the top/trail intersection maybe even closer than the 7.14
i get repeatedly on our watch.  i have noticed your watch seems to
measure shorter than ours.  who’s right?  did you get to the really
overgrown section near the taller pine trees w/ a little tree across
the trail about 1 foot off the ground.  that’s only about .25 from the
top.  noni left about 2-3 minutes after you and i went to the bathroom
and left about 2-3 minutes after her.  i was surprised at how long it took
 me to catch both of you esp. given that i felt great.  you made a huge
improvement in time.  soon you’ll be able to do the whole thing faster
 than this last time.  i say you are ready for whitney! That speed hiking
 is very common in ultrarunning as some course
are so hard and
 sometimes the athletes just don’t want to run the whole way for
50 or 100 miles and the ultrarunning term for it is power hiking.  
i have been passed a few times while i was running in ultras by guys
(sometimes gals, too) who were power hiking so it is a very useful
and “powerful” locomotion tool.  you get that down and you’ll have
a future in ultras.
harpy tails,

I did see that downed tree across the trail. About 5″ in diameter right?
  Yeah I got up to a very tight, very overgrown section. I made it thru
 that and came out on top of a sort of barren area and a hard right turn.
 But that’s when the watch said 6.55 and the Fuel gauge was on “E”.  
 The attached pic is right up at 4,143 ft….Quite a view  
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………  Eric,



AguaTibiaSRPpics021.jpg picture by Trexx77







AQUA TIBIA SOLO: Tracy Mt Goat Ellis

I decided to see what all the hype is about at this local, thus trotted up about 4 miles in 64 minutes, then dashed and I mean dashed down it in 35. during my usual mid day not cold time frame.  Wore gators (canvas leg protectors) and carried a few survival items just because I and the rattlers were up there alone together.  Enjoyed the views but need to figure out how far I went -reached the first obvious ‘saddle’ from which one can see valley’s below on both one’s right and the left, then the trail began descending so I hung a U turn. Part of a large dead tree trunk  protrudes into but doesn’t block the path at this point.  Anyone know how far it is to that area or do I need to run back up with the garmin??


  On 25 August, during the not cool part of the day, I re ran my course and found the tree lies at 4.33 mile point, making it 8.66 miles round trip from the ranger station, if any one cares to know besides me.  a large rock now sits on the downed tree and a smaller rock sits a top the bigger rock, just in case there are doubts about ‘which tree’. A fellow who was hiking up as I was trotting down told me he spotted 3 rattlers on the trail last time he was up here.  I saw none but wore gators again just in case I startled a hungrey one. Noni and Linda: You two have my admiration, gal to gal -you two hit the 5 mile point (10 round trip) and make it back down again in the length of time it takes me to go 8.66…..2 hrs 2 minutes there abouts.


Here’s something making the email rounds that some of you might enjoy:



Iain posted this in “comments”  Im posting it here to make sure it’s seen by everyone.

“Carpooling with a twist??? Anyone interested in a relay race?

many of the club did the Wild Miles last year and had fun. Since then the subject of entering another relay has cropped up several times. Here is a link to a quite a few around the country.
Many are on the east coast but a few are more ‘local’ such as 24hrs of freedom (AZ – lots of trails they say), the Ragner relay in AZ and ‘The Relay’ from Calistoga to Santa Cruz.
I know from experience that it takes quite a bit of arranging when these events are not on your doorstep, so who’s interested?”



On 8/27/08 Kim Parris went to Big Bear to do the 2nd in a series of 3 races put on by Calmultisport.com. You may remember the story and pictures of Kim in her kayak and on her bike at the Vail Lake round last month.  I didn’t go this time so there are no pics to share but Kim did write up a race report and without further adieu:

“Man that was tough.  I really did feel that elevation.  They switched the order to run, bike, kayak…. I wish I would have had my garmin, because I don’t think the distances were accurate.  The run was up-up-up-up…plenty of rocks.  I could not get my heart rate to level out so actually walked quite a bit….at least what would be way more than normal for me.  I chose the most rocky sections to walk because I turned my ankle several times.  I was just afraid I was using way too much energy to last the whole race at the rate I was going.  The bike was easier than Vail as far as the technical stuff, but it was a VERY long climb.  Not as steep as the damn dam hill, but way longer.  I passed like 5 guys and after that I rode the rest of the course all by my lonesome.  The transition from the bike to the kayak was almost a mile.  I had to switch out of my bike shoes, into my running shoes, and then take them completely off when I got to the kayak as I had a rudder that required toe action.  The kayak was nothing like vail…the wind and the boats make it more like an ocean paddle, and im not exaggerating…I almost tipped once.  I was talking to a guy on his way back as I was on my way out and he did tip over…..i felt really bad because I felt responsible.  It didn’t tip upside down though and he was able to get back in so I felt much better.


The paddle was 6 very long miles and after that I had to put my shoes back on to run the mile back to the finish…I was cramping so bad I thought I would never get them on my feet.   Anyhow, end result.  4:36 minutes, 19th out of 42, 5th female, but I don’t know how many there were.  I do know that the ones in front of me had lots of experience, 1 was from brazil, 2 locals and acclimated, and one from Redondo Beach/

Anyhow, Im just beat and I need some sleep.  -K.P


And speaking of Kim, she and I tried a new MTB ride the other day. Well new to us anyway.  We started out on a trail that is on the opposite side of the road from the Fire station on Clinton Keith on the way up to the Plateau.  Well there was a trail, but it was very overgrown.  A shame because its every bit as nice as the “enchanted forrest” is up at SRP.  The problem was all of the poison oak. It was EVERYWHERE. In places the trail would only be a foot or less wide and lined with poison oak, sometimes over our heads.  How we both got thru over 2 miles of that wearing bike shorts is beyond me…………… 

Now that I’ve learned enough to take a video with my little camera I’m going to try to start sharing some of the stuff some of us do with the rest of the gang. For this little story I just took 2 short videos of Kim.  The first one in on Shivela trail at SRP it’s at the west end as you come out of some trees and then head out into and along the meadow. I wanted to show the flow of the trail. It’s curves and it’s elevation changes. Enjoy:


This next video is also on Shivela trail but right at the junction where it meets Sylvan Meadows road.  This is a shot where it’s a bit tough to see in the beginning as the rider is rather small. She is coming off a slight hill on an extremely tricky off camber right hand sweeper with a rut in the middle.  She manages to get thru the turn cleanly with a head of steam and then accelerates even more until she is at Mach 1 as she passes me. If you turn up the volume you can make out the sonic boom as she flys by 😉 :



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Ingy called me the other day to say he had a couple of tickets to a showing of Dean Karnazes Marathon film. We met up with Boston Barb and Mark and the 4 of us went in to enjoy the film down town at the Tower center. There were maybe 20 people in the theatre if that.  The film was great. It was mostly a documentary of his 50 Marathons in 50 States in 50 Days. But it was shot with a lot of humor, some breath taking scenery and done quite professionally.  I found it interesting that I perceived him to have lost quite a bit of weight during his feat but at the end they said he’d only lost 1 lb.  I think it was also stated that after taking a zillion blood samples throughout the ordeal that he had about as much adverse effect on his body after 50 races as most Marathoners do after 1.  Also of interest was the logistics of putting it all together.  Some days he’d be running in hot and humid weather and the next he’d be running in freezing rain. At his 40th race………opps better not give too much away in case any of you get a chance to see this film. Check it out.